Sarah Cukier: Cultivating trust in the unknown & healing her psychic abilities.

This episode is so special to me. Sarah has been a client of mine for close to 4 years. She began with animal communication for her own animals who were in the show circuit and then went on to learn Animal Communication to expand in her business, which opened her psychic powers. 

She then used all of this to make HUGE leaps in her life at the young age of 34 to become an embodied entrepreneur.

She continues to work with me weekly and I get the privilege of working with her husband, her 6-year-old daughter, and all of her animals.

Sarah is a powerful Aquarius Sun, Cancer Rising and Leo moon with a massive Capricorn Stellium that she holds unique Astro Codes with.

Sarah and her husband are retired show handlers who are now owners of one of the most successful dog boarding kennels in Mebane, NC, called “Bed and Bone.”

Sarah and I talk a lot about Animal Communication, her spiritual journey, her healing of her psychic abilities and how she transitioned all of this to create a successful 6 figure a month business at the age of 34!

I know you will find this episode so relatable and inspiring!

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Transcript

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Welcome to the untamed soul podcast. I am your host, Rachelle Embry, the founder of radiant vibes. I am a spiritual mentor and intuitive, energetic alchemist for you, your animals, and your soulful business. This is a podcast devoted to soul activation and embodied entrepreneurship. It is an exploration of inspirational humans who are leading the path to a new earth. Along the way, I will share intuitive insight and practical wisdom to inspire infinite potential in every area of your life. I am so excited to have you on this journey, so together, we can become untamed. Hello, everyone. I am here with Sarah Kukia, and she is just She's been in my world for gosh, probably like three years, three and a half years, maybe even longer than that. And Sarah is to me, such a beautiful example of how we really do heal with our animals. And so. A lot of this conversation will be around healing with animals, but also like how that's really moved in her journey as she's taken that in through the rest of her life and healing personally, emotionally, even in her business and making big moves in her life, where has landed her now owning a kennel called Bed and Bone. Out in Mabane, North Carolina. And truly, honestly, if I can just say it straight,. She is like a walking legend 33 years old. She'll be 34 soon. And, Sarah is an Aquarius sun. She is a Leo moon cancer rising. And I'm saying all this because she knows I throw all this stuff out. Stuff at her all the time and our work together. It's hard for everybody to remember. What is also cool about Sarah and you'll learn this as she's speaking it. And I'm sure those of you that are really familiar with the energetics in astrology will feel a lot of her Capricorn energy coming through, but she has a six stellium, six planet stellium and Capricorn, meaning she has six planets that she is moving through Capricorn energy and several personal planets. And one in her karmic Saturn. And, uh, it's really fascinating to see like how all of these different dynamics have played out in her spiritual gifts. She's profoundly psychic. Like, seriously, I go to her for like anything. I'm like, Sarah, I need to know what is up with this. She is so psychic, so crystal clear with her channel when she's like, she's just that, that Aquarius energy where it just drops through her and her human design. She's a two, four splenic projector. Which I feel like those of you with projector energy, you're going to really relate to Sarah and, and those projector vibes, those big power vibes that she has. So Sarah, thanks so much for coming on here. And I'm really excited for this. I've been so, I just, we were talking before, like sharing your journey and like how your, your, everything started, how you came into my world and How things started and your evolution, which is just phenomenal to me. And I'm always like in awe of like, God, look at her go. You know, I really appreciate that. That's so kind. So many kind words. Yeah. It's definitely been a big journey. I think from day one together to now is a really massive thought change. Hugely, and I think a lot of that is attributed to starting in one place and working through so many different avenues of what we've done together, not just one avenue, multiple different energetic avenues of animals to mentoring together, to business mentoring, to, you know, dealing with things on higher planes now. You know, that really being able to understand, and maybe in the moment, I didn't know the trajectory, but every time we did something, I was like, okay, well, what's next? What are we doing next? Do you know what I mean? Okay, we conquered this, but what's, what's the next thing? It wasn't always like, okay, well, you did this, so now we're good. Mm hmm. Right. It was understanding, like, there's another step, you know, and there's always more steps, you know, but I think that's a big thing we've done together. Yeah. And so you can't, you started with the, well, actually you clarified this a little bit beforehand. You started with your own personal session. So a little bit about Sarah's background is her and her husband are, well, they're kind of retired show handlers, dog show handlers, and they are pretty prestigious. They're really well known. They're great at what they do. They have like some of the like, but one of. Their dogs was a client of mine in 2022 as well. The dog was the client along with Sarah's husband who handled MMM and MMM ended up being the number one terrier. What is number one terrier? She was actually in the country. Yeah. All breed. She was number one bitch in the country. Number one terrier, all systems. Um, the winningest Lakeland of breed points of all time. She defeated more Lakeland's than any Lakeland has ever done ever. She won best in show Montgomery and she won the group at Westminster Kennel Club. And Westminster is, is the one that you guys all see on TV, just for reference. It's like the big deal. So, they're no joke, and I feel that what a lot of, sometimes dog handlers, they don't get the best reputation or, or they're, they're looked at as like, oh, they're, they just don't appreciate the animals. And, uh, What I love about this part of the work that I do is like the people that come to me love their freaking animal so much and want them to feel cherished. They want them to feel clear, energetically, like they're competing at very high levels. It's like, it's, it's taking us and like, if you equate this to like the dogs that are, that are competing at that level. And our, our equivalent to, you know, the powerhouse people that are really making big moves in their life. And like, you can't do that alone. So like they need their own energetic resource and their own coaching and their own time. And, and the people, the humans need the mindset and their own coaching, right. Just so that we're not projecting this energy onto the animals. And, and Sarah and her husband are so great at that. I feel like really transforming the industry with show dogs and how. Like that deep appreciation for what they do and who they are as a soul being, like seeing it really illuminate from that. And so that's a little bit about like her background. And now they earlier this year, they went and bought a kennel, the kennel that I spoke about, um, Emma Bain, which was a huge risk, which we'll get into that later and how she moved through that. But I just want you to kind of understand a little bit about how Sarah and I connected through the dogs. And then you started with your own thing. You want to talk about that a little bit? Yeah, um, so we definitely connected like we did one session. Um, I had found out about you through my best friend Tyler had a client that had used you and I had found out about you and I was like, Oh, definitely tries this looks awesome and I did do one personal reading with you and I loved it. And then, um, We moved into more working with the dogs and doing a lot of that in the first thing because that was kind of the main point and, you know, a lot of our campaigning and everything, it takes a toll on the dogs, like, energetically, emotionally, they're just like us. They feel those highs and lows and I think people don't always realize when they're doing any level of competition, it doesn't have a confirmation to be agility, obedience, basket, whatever your thing is, shits and work. The dogs aren't just this like entity that don't have energy and they don't have, you know, we all understand when you're working with dogs, they have feelings, but I don't think people truly understand that their dogs ride that rollercoaster with them. And, you know, depending on your emotions and how you deal with things, they're having to either balance you to, to exist. In the same level and perform the way you're asking and it's understanding for me that like working with Ray really helped the dog stay at that really high performance level energetically and also emotionally because, you know, every dog's different, you know, the difference between working with the Newfoundlands and the Border Collies and the Terriers, they need something that's different. And it really for us, like, Working with the different dogs and, and was the biggest one that, you know, had the most because we did such a long, we did a longer campaign and she had a lot going on, but it, it also didn't end working with our dogs through their show campaign. It's about when they have puppies, it's about end of life too and I think, um, people need to understand that, that that's not just for show stuff. That this is, they can be retired and need this, you know, they can be, and also them understanding what retirement is. They just need it. They're dogs. It just ended for them. What do you mean? Like, this has been my life. Yeah. But why did my life just end? And you, you know, you gave me a seven blade. And I'm not a show dog anymore. What? You know, so it's understanding that in grooming terms, y'all grooming, like all of a sudden I went from being a pristine show dog to now I'm walking around the house, you know, on a couch, what they don't know why that change happened. They don't have a grasp on time. And that's why I think the animal communication and healing, especially. Healing was so important for balancing going through so much, because when you're doing dogs on a really high level, they, you know, you're going on planes, you're going places, you're traveling hours, like, that toll is real on them too. You know, you're doing self care, well, what are you doing for them? Yeah, you know, so like humans are going to take a nap, go get a massage, whatever that is, maybe talk to your best friend for two hours about your trip and what happened with the judges. And you know, how did that affect you? Well, your dog didn't get to talk to anybody on the phone for two hours. Yeah. It's like dog therapy, like animal therapy and the communication they do. They're always like, they show up in their sessions and they're really ready to be heard. And I feel like That's even for everyday companions. It doesn't even matter if you're, if you're, and I feel like that's one of the things that you really recognize. Cause you started, you, you did some work, you did, I think you were on like a six month, you, you went into six month mentorship around soul alignment with me initially. And then, um, from there you were like, I really want to do more. I want to expand my intuitive. You started to realize that you were, you were like, yeah, I am psychic. You started to own it instead of fearing it because you had a lot of fear around that initially and you're scared and embarrassment. And like, what do people, you know, you sit there and you go, okay, well. You look back on situations and you go, okay, like psychic can be like this dirty word for some reason. And we need to heal it. Yeah. It's like, yeah, you know, it can be this dirty word. And for me, it was like, okay, translating everyone goes, oh yeah, we'll just give it to Sarah. Sarah can wrangle it. No worries. Like, Sarah can handle that dog. It has emotional issues. It has aggression issues. Whatever its problem is, no problem. Sarah can take care of it. Because Sarah will figure it out. Or she can, even if I just met them, like, I can make it through whatever that process was they needed. You know, I can make it work. And it's understanding that I can, it's not all body language. It's, you don't even realize you're in their head. And it, you know, I'm not special in that manner of so many really good handlers at the dog show have that same talent. They may not define it that way or understand it or explore it in that way, but they are reading the dogs in a way that's different. Yeah. I don't realize that. Yeah, totally. Don't have that understanding. And I think once we, you know, we did six months of the mentorship and that was a lot of working through my own misconceptions and my own personal, things that were holding me back, my own thought processes that were not allowing me to thrive because I was stuck in my own emotions that I couldn't process them so I couldn't move through them. So I couldn't go to something bigger. Like bigger couldn't exist for me because. I didn't even realize I could, that I was able to. And I think that's the same thing with, the psychic abilities and being able, to speak to animals and being able to channel, channel loved ones or, other entities is that the same thing as once I changed my mindset on, it's not a dirty word. It is something that's going to help me in my life. And it's something that I can expand upon and really change my universe. It really drastically changed so much of what I was doing. And it changed how not only I help my dogs, but like, I'll help my family, how I help my friends, how I see my business. It's a, it's like a domino effect of like, once you change that thought process, it really. opened up a lot of doors, you know, not instantaneously. It takes some time, but I, I really think that was something that I was like, okay, well, psychics, not bad. And I am talking to them and how do we expand on that? And that's now my favorite thing. Yeah. It's not a favorite thing that like I do in my daily life. You know, I've saved a lot of moments knowing what's going on. Like, so, you know, knowing that a dog's sick, something's not right. No, they're fine. No, something's not right. I might not tell you what right now, but you need to do something right now. Yeah. And you feel like it's like really benefited you on your regular, like in everything that you do all the way around learning that. And like, this is so. It's like taking this back to astrology a little bit. What I love about this is so much of this is healing that Capricorn energy, which is so like, it's got to make sense. It's got to be practical. How can I apply this to my everyday reality? And also you have a Hades moon. So like you're, and if you guys don't know about this, it's. It listened to last week's Braffer. We talk about this, but also in Sarah's chart, you know, she's got it where her moon is squaring Pluto. And, and while that's deep work with the mother wound, her moon's also opposite her son, you know, so she is here to really heal and then like illuminate and let those gifts come out in ways that I feel because of all of her Capricorn expression is like in these grounded ways that really, you know, are of the earth, you know? Like, how can we take this and bring this to the earth and create with it? Like, not just use it to Yes, there's understanding, but like, you've used this to like really co create with the universe, amazing successes and accolades and, and awesome things. And so it started with the animals. And then once you accepted it, cause I remember, I remember one of the things that were coming through right away. You were like, who is this Thor? This Thor, do you remember that? Yes, it was such a strange, I had about lost my bananas that day. Um, Oh my God, I was, I had gone to this girl. She was lovely. Uh, it was like dipping my toe a little bit. It's like aligning your chakras or whatever. And she was lovely. She was great. Um, I'm blanking on names. I haven't been there in years. And when she was doing it, this huge entity came through that was so overwhelming. So I didn't even know what it was at that point. I didn't even understand what was what it was. I was just like, first off, this is not. I'm not imagining this. This was so overwhelming. This that came in, I shot off the table and I was like about in a sleep in a meditation. And I was like, Whoa. And I was so disheveled because I couldn't define what it was. I couldn't define what had happened. I just sent you an email and I was like, I don't even think we were doing mentorship at that point. I think we were like, you had to have a session around it. You're like, I need a session or something. I was like, I don't know what we're doing, but I, I know I wasn't as serious, but from like that moment on, I was like. I don't know what this is. We need to explore it. And it was like, uh, like a bucket of cold water on me of like, wake up, it's time to go. And I just, from the, I think that was what almost like shot off more of the psychic things of like, now I fully understand what happened now. I understand about, you know, that energy and Toth and what he's about. And, you know, um, it's actually someone I, I, I do really enjoy working with. But, um, as a guide. Yeah, as a guy, like hugely someone, you know, not all the time. But now I understand that but that really like was like, you were scared, you were like, I don't know what's going on like. And that's, yeah, and that's so important. Like, oh my God, this was otherworldly. I am here on earth. Like, I'm analytical. I have a master's degree. I, you know, I am a science person. You know, I may handle dogs, but I'm highly educated. Like it's, it's a bit of both worlds for me because I'm not, Someone who just came out of high school and started showing dogs. You know, I worked for a handler. I did it right. I got a master's degree. Like I did the things that like the world said I should do. I have a backup for my backup. And you know, so for that to happen, didn't have. An answer. There wasn't an answer in a book. There wasn't a thing. It was, it was something that I had to research and work through with you and do work on my own to understand what actually happened that day. And, you know, actually then understanding a lot more of that, you know, and that was a wake up call. That's so funny you brought that up, but that was a big wake up call. Let's go. Yeah, it's so cool. And like you have Jupiter conjunct to your, your rising. So like those things really expand on you as well. Cause it's like, and you're rising of cancer is like intuitive, you know, that really strong intuition. Like when you, when you, when it opens up, it's going to be like, you know, power and that you've gone through different times where you're like, I feel disconnected from my guests. I feel like in, and where I think this is really. Really valuable for people to hear because we all, especially as we're like evolving with our gifts and opening it up when life gets heavy, when life gets in the way, when we're moving through stuff, we can often feel like we're, we don't have those gifts or, you know, a lot of the times at first it's something outside of us that we're drawing in. And then eventually, and I feel like what you've really moved through this year is starting to realize. It's just always in me. It's always there. I, I can access it at any point. And like, I know this firsthand because I can literally ask you questions around, like, I'll dive in energies and stuff like that. And even with, with radiant vibes, I'm like, what do you get about this? You know, if I just can't get a clear, like out of my head and then here, Sarah, we'll just tune right in. And it just opens up like a floodgate, you know? Yeah. So I think it, and also, I think I had to also talk to myself and be like, it's not linear, like this type of stuff is not like, I know how to do math so I know how to do math forever. Right. You know what these abilities because everyone's able to do them. It's just, it's just like any other skill you have to work at it you have to use it it just. It doesn't, if you're not going to use it, if you're not going to do it, you're not opening those channels for me, channels to strengthen your connection of like when you want to do it. And you know, I do not, I, I guess I'm a naughty girl because I don't meditate before I do things. And I just, I'm an off the fly girl. No, you're an Aquarius sun. That's just what we do. Make our own. I don't do the what, you know, I need a 20 minute meditation and then I'm going to get there. I'm like, No, I'm either going to read it right off the bat and know exactly what you need as you're talking to me or not. Like I'm, I'm not making a, um, a procedure of this, right? Like for me, it's very fluid and I see it like a river and yeah, sometimes the river's really high and my motions are in the right place and I'm in the right place. So like I'm incredibly connected and I don't need to think about it and stuff is just. Information's coming or like, Hey, sometimes the river's a little dry because I'm not in the right place. So I'm not able to connect because I'm not even trying to, like, I'm way out of my body. I'm not living like where you live a physical world. So you need to remember you're in a body, you're living a physical life or meant to experience this. So. Be that and if you're going to be too out of your own body, you're not going to be able to connect because you're living way too high up. You're out of your own head and it's just keeping that groundedness. And so for me, I feel like, um, if people are suffering with like, they're having connection issues and like, you know, as I suffered, like, Oh, I don't feel connected. It's like, okay, well, why is that? You know, it's not, yeah, It's not math. It's a river, you know, it's gonna go because we're humans. We're not perfect all the time. So like your connection is not going to be perfect all the time and your emotions aren't perfect all the time. So like understanding that all that's connected, you know, because you go, Oh, I got this skill. I can channel, um, dead people. Cool. Well, like maybe sometimes you don't do it as well because where are you at? I think that's also giving yourself grace to understand you are a human being and you're going to have different points. Um, so that's kind of like, uh, I think a bigger revelation because sometimes I'm just so on point with other people, but for me, I don't get nothing. One of the things I know that I personally know frustrated, frustrated like the hell out of you. Why do I open up and as soon as somebody else asks me something, I get it. But then when I go to me, I, it's like closed up and you, you were, you were kind of pissed about it for a while. Like, you know, there were moments I'm going through my life, you know, and last year was such a transformative year and it was one of the best years of my life as such a transformative year, such a difficult year, but I wouldn't change it for anything, like literally the level of gratitude that me and Ariel have. For all the people in our lives that made that happen. It's just it's unfathomable like just um, but you know, you're going through a really hard moment and you're trying to Change your life and do all this and you know, you know You have this ability that's changing other people's lives and people are you know coming to you And you know, it's not like i'm Like I, that's not my thing. I don't get paid. I do it because I love it. And I love the people that I'm around and what, you know, that type of thing. I'm giving advice to my friends, whoever shows up their connections, whoever, like it's, it's, it's for my personal fulfillment. I do this for people, but just being so upset that I have this ability. I can nail things on the head for people, give them greater, you know, give them what they need or what their guides are asking that they need, or if they need to speak to a dental, what person, a relative, I can help them, but I go for me. And it's like, nothing, sorry, figure it out on your own. And that's a very difficult position as well to start to understand. It's not that I don't get anything, but there were moments where it was just like, no, do it yourself. Yeah, yeah, they were like forcing you to figure it out and not be so I call it like healing the codependency with like our spirit team is if we are so crutched on that or tarot or astrology or whatever your tool is. I mean, I use them all like human design if we are so crutched on that yet we're not in our own experience and really sitting with our own energy and Our own thoughts and, and, and like you, like contemplating through that and also being willing to like, do, I feel like for you, you were so willing to stay committed to mentorship coaching. And even when like, cause you know, you're an Aquarius sun and you have all that Capricorn stuff feels are not your vibe yet. You are cancer rising. So like you do feel very depth. You feel the depth, you have a Hades moon, you feel very deeply, but it was like, I like moving you to that place of like, where's this really coming from? Was, was I, I feel like something that was, was probably the most challenging for you, but then also something that you equally wanted to access in a way that felt like right to you, you know, and being able to do that. And I think that was like one of the biggest things that was almost getting in the way when you were trying to get, you're like, where are they at? And it was just almost like. No, you, you got to heal your own emotions. You got to heal in your inner world around this and really access these, these fears and, and other things that were kind of like really coming up. Yeah, yeah. And I think, and I think that goes back to dealing with your emotions and feeling because I don't enjoy feeling emotions I don't. Enjoy that in the sense of like truly moving through them. You can be sad, but actually processing that sad is a whole different ballpark. You know, you can cry over something, but like, did you get over it? Did you feel validated in that emotion? And can you move through it? You can be upset about something for years. Yeah, never actually move through it. Actually, you don't need to resolve to the emotion, but honoring that emotion, knowing that it exists, how, and sometimes for me is just saying it out loud because like, even saying it out loud for me is just like, no, I'm not going to cry. What are you talking about? I'm not going to cry over that. That's ridiculous. You know what I mean? And understanding that like, okay, well, sadness isn't crying and sadness or that type of thing isn't weakness. Cause we also attribute other things to those emotions. Okay. Well, sadness is weakness. And I can't be that because I am somebody who has to provide for so many things and be responsible for so many things for my dogs, for my family, for my business, you know, for my clients, for so many different to your mom, you know, so like there is no room for me. to be weak. And, you know, it's understanding like, well, moving, feeling your emotions isn't being weak. And that's a misconception. And that's something that you brought through from either your childhood or a previous situation. That's not actually what's happening here. And so I think once I started moving through some of those things, then it's going backwards of like, okay, so why do I feel that way? Mm hmm. What's going on with that? And then also understanding that that's stopping me from moving forward because the minute I hit something like that, it stopped. Okay, well that makes me, I don't want to feel that emotion. So, okay, but you can't go around it. Mm hmm. You can try and go around it, but it's going to keep, the universe is going to keep giving it to you until you move through it and accept it and, you know, handle it. And so that's a blockage. Mm hmm. That was very difficult for me, you know, that I had to work through and working through, you know, um, like we were talking about before, like, okay, I work so hard. I have all of this, you know, previous to buying the kennel and being a dog handler, you know, okay, I may work this hard and I worked so hard on my dogs and I do all this and I only have this. Well, what do you mean you only have this? Why are you comparing this to other people? Like, Other people would die to have all those assets. Other people would die to have that situation and you're demeaning it. Yeah. You know what I mean? And that's a blockage already right there. That's a lack mindset of, I couldn't move past that until we, we worked through that and then I was like, oh, there are bigger things and look at today, you know, far removing that for, I think that's one of the hardest things to deal with is understanding that all of those things are coming from those emotions, you know, and it's not easy. Yeah. And it, and it's like, I feel like it's a really, you're saying that as a clear testament to, you can have all these external things, all these, every, you know, Matt, you can have all the accolades and success. And. And money or whatever, and oh, your rental property, this property, you can have all that, but it didn't make me feel any better. Right. It was like, oh, but reaching for that as a source of safety, but then really the inner safety was in your own world and in your own body and like in your, and just moving through a lot of that, because you, what really happens is when women. Like us that are very driven and love, love the drive. I mean, love to create, love to co create with the universe. It's like always up like, what is next? What can I do? What, how, how can I create this? And we get really fixated on that. Like often we just forget, we forget about ourselves and we're so used to going, going, going, going. And then the moment life gets easy. And I feel like after you made your big adjustments, you know, life was easy. And then we're really. Sitting with our thoughts. We're really seeing it and how disconnected from ease we can get. If we're, if we're not, if we're like always in that, like striving for outside of us to create that sense of validation, like the best in show or the, the big, uh, you know, money booster, the big money month or all the following and all the stuff that people do. And I feel like what happens and. You move through a lot of this is we create resentment. We feel resentful to the world. And if I dare say it to the universe, cause I've been there, like, you know, fuck this, you know, what are you doing for me universe? Like I'm pissed I'm done. And like you, you create, I mean, not you, but like, we will create that. And, and I love that you owned it when it happened. And. You, you had to sit in it though. I mean, you definitely had to sit in it. I helped space for you to sit in it until you were ready. And then I remember the day it was like, okay, now you've got to make a choice. It's like, what are we going to do with this? This is, and I love this because to me, that's like that sacred rage. That's why I did like reclamation Blackman Lilith. Cause that is Blackman Lilith coming right through. Sarah's is in Scorpio saying like, I am done. Like I got this rage. I need to do something with it. Oh my God. You know, and it just, it was something that I had to move through and the day we dealt with it, then we dealt with it. And it's, you know, it still pops up every once in a while. It's not like these things are going to be gone forever, you know, but you get through it enough that you're like, okay, this is cool. You know? And. It, you know, very much is for some background for people is like, you know, I worked so hard and I never had a best in show and I was like, so jaded at the world over this that everyone and their mother could get one being an assistant and they just showed up and they won this and I would and I would pay attention because it hurt me so badly. Right. But it's not something I was controlling. Like, it wasn't something that I wasn't doing to get that. But that was a very um, ma for me, macro of like everything else that was going on, you know, it wasn't just that, that reflected back like my jadedness of like, oh my God, why do others have this? And I don't. Meanwhile, like, so your husband's out getting best in show after best in show, and you're supporting him emotionally and physically and you're just like, he does it. But what I, what I remember though is you went out and you got a best in show with Mm, yeah, yeah. I got you totally discounted it.'cause you were likes all the time. He's amazing and Mm. Wins everything. I say it's m but Mm, I call her. Mm. But like, you know, mms amazing. So that's why it happened. And, and it was like. No, the universe just gave you that. And this is Capricorn healing Saturn and Capricorn is like, but we couldn't, you know, it's like hard to receive it. So like the receiving channel was even closed off because it just, there was all that resentment. And now you've like float through your whole like transformation through the last year of like, Then you guys, so I'm going to lead into this, into like where you're at now, because basically Sarah, they, they, after that show you, so it was two top 2022. And then in 2023, they had been End of 2022. Yes, then we moved to North Carolina at the very end of 2022, beginning of 2023. Like, on a whim, um, and, I mean, you knew we were doing this. We had decided in March we were buying the kennel, but we were in the middle of a campaign, so that could not happen. And, um, and I feel like, so, you know, we talk about accessing soul, we talk about like big moves. We talk about bravery and trusting our intuition and like Sarah had the download, she had the vision and she was committed to it and she made some risky decisions that a lot of us just wouldn't do. And, you know, she moved down there, her current house wasn't sold yet, but No, I had to be there with the kennel, like the current owners live in with them, with her husband and her kid till they love, we love, love, love the previous owners. They were very close to them. It was like, it really was a gift from the universe. I mean, the way that this all like transpired, but it was a huge investment. It was a huge leap moving cross state, you know, having a lot of loose ends and. I mean, there was other things that come up, which I'll let you share whatever that you want. But I mean, it was just kind of like, Oh, like when you made the decision and it's like, we, sometimes we make this decisions, we're like, Oh my God, we're doing it. And we're so inspired in it. And then all of a sudden we'll get obstacle after obstacle or hurdle after hurdle. And we're like, what are we doing? Why am I doing this? And it's so hard to stay committed to that bigger vision. But I mean, you guys had, So much that you had to like, it was this whole transformation, death and rebirth and like moving into another. Yeah, I would definitely say it was a whole death and rebirth of us just, and it, and it, and I think it's, this happens to a lot more people than people want to talk about. And just understanding when you're making big moves, it's not going to be smooth. And it's not that you're doing anything wrong or it's a bad situation. It's like, Hey, when you make any big change. You're going to have stuff come up and you're not always going to be aware of what that's going to be. Cause you're going to go, okay, I'm going to do this big change in my life. And it's going to go a, B, C, D. No problems. I've already done the research. I'm good. And then you actually get into the process and you're like, okay, well, this wants to delay itself. And okay, now the mortgage company wants to delay itself. And now there needs to be, you know, a new survey. And you're like, Hey, I didn't even think, okay. That that would be a problem, you know, The survey of your land, the house that you were trying to sell, the property value for that. You couldn't get the survey guy out there. You know, there's a month delay on that and it's like, okay, well, Purchasing the house actually went pretty, pretty well in doing all that. Um, other than, you know, two hiccups of the survey here, but you know, we're paying for this house in North Carolina, we're paying the house in Delaware. We got the Maryland house sold, but like you're juggling so many items and things just pop up that you're not even thinking about, you know, You're, you're selling this house and you're okay. No, well now I have tax issues to deal with, with this. Okay. Well, what do you mean you have tax issues with this? This was never a problem before. We never had an issue before. Oh, well now you did it this way. So now they're going to want a very large sum of money instantaneously. Well, I'm paying for three houses. I'm buying a kennel and now you want this, the IRS wants a massive chunk of money. Right. And you had to pay it in to get your loan. Like, yeah. And it's like, okay. And the, honestly, the universe, I don't have to say this in any less of a woo woo way, but the universe really delivered on so many things for me. And really, the path just opened up. And in the moment when it happens, when you receive the news of like, holy shit, how am I going to do this? Holy fuck, how am I going to do this? It's overwhelming and you get really down for a moment because you're just like, oh my god, like there is so much i'm doing and this is so painful and I don't even know Like what am I like? Have I have I done the wrong thing? Like I feel so strongly This is the right thing but what amount of obstacles in front of me that should have never been there? That when I did everything, it was not going to be there and you can't, you can't plan for, for things happening like that. And it got resolved. It resolved itself pretty quickly, actually. And we, we closed pretty well. The survey took us the longest part. And no one thought the survey was going to be a problem. It took a month to get someone to do that. And even that, I'm paying an additional amount of money to hold my rate. Every week that this guy is waiting and I'm like, please, I don't want to spend more please just come do this survey so we can close and you know, and then you have your lawyer go on you know vacation and you're like, Okay, what are we going to do about that Well, nothing. Yeah, and you had to have them look over the con yeah, you know, so many things and nothing was bad. It was just like you're not ready. You can't anticipate some of these obstacles and the obstacles then put weight on all your responsibilities and it's like, Oh my god, how much do I have in myself? Do I actually trust myself that I know what I'm doing? Do I trust in it? The world and the universe and like, no, this is meant to be, this is going to happen. And you have moments like just like anybody else, like, okay, I can handle this. I got it. And then it's like, okay, everything's settled and my house still isn't sold in Delaware. And I'm like, you know, we're just, you know, we've made this big investment. We've done all this stuff. You know, we've paid this huge bill to the IRS. And I'm like, okay, I really need it. Some things to happen, right? Right. And I need to get ground. I need to get my foundation set. And it's like, you're asking, I gave up like All the handling you personally, everything was not coming in. You need to get a contract done so you could start making money on the kennel, but you also had to learn, you know, be down there with learning that I was doing and, and, and from, um, from the owners and, um, from Jen and Rippy and I, and I'm learning all this, but you know, our income. At that moment, at that very space really drastically went down and thankfully we're, You know, we saved and we have all this, but you know, when you're out, out, out, out, out, you go, oh my God, what have I done? And then you just have to go, no, I, I really, I might've had some rough moments, but I really believed in myself. And like, this is the right thing I'm doing for our life. And I know it and I believe it and I wouldn't trade it for anything. And I'm so glad I went through what I wanted. It taught me a lot. And, you know, we got to the point where everything settled and now I wouldn't trade it for anything. But it was such a transformative moment of like, how much do you believe? Do you trust yourself, Sarah? Cause you're in a rough spot. And I think that's a big hurdle for so many people that, you know, really are so afraid and they stayed very stagnant or very small and they have beautiful gifts or beautiful talents and it doesn't necessarily mean like spiritual gifts. Like your business isn't, it's not a spiritual business though. You're blending spiritual energetics and, and all of these, All of these principles in there, like you go through your kennel, you know, like the animals that aren't right. And I remember you talking about that, like, Oh, it just like, when I feel their energy and like what's going on at home, sometimes I feel in it. Just it, you started to really, I think that experience just cracked you open so much to feel it all. And then you started feeling this depth of the animals that you're like, I just cry. Like when I feel that sadness with them and you were really feeling it a lot as you started to. You know. Get on the other side of, of all of that. And it just, it did, it cracked you open. It's like, oh my God, how am I going to do this? And so many people are afraid of that. And, and it's, it is hard to trust in the unknown, but like the one thing I feel like, and I just even thinking about how this is playing out in my life now, it's like hearing your stories, like, I need to really It's she's the one that made me feel like I feel like I had more trust in my vision. Cause moving through some different energies here, I have one house that I did get rented out. That was my previous house. That, but I felt like my energy was so there. Cause I lived there for three and a half years. Like that was so like, yes, come rent me. This is a beautiful space. And now I have this other space that I'm like having a really hard time getting it rented. It was an Airbnb. I'm trying to get that. Then Ryan's house is on the market and we need to sell that. And I'm like in this new house that I love. And it's like, Okay. Can we just get some settling? And I've also gone through a lot of death and rebirth and transformation through radiant vibes and like my expression of me. And one of the things that I know, like you went through was Pluto conjunct your Mercury through this whole time that you were going through this. And I've got it right now, conjunct my Mercury right now, as I'm going through this. And it's like, this is such a, not that everybody needs Pluto conjunct this to do this, but it's like moving through these difficult challenges. And when we do it and Really for me, I think hearing this is like staying true to that vision, like trusting that vision, like you have it for a reason. And so it's like, here it is, here's the vision. Like now go do the difficult things that might not always necessarily be a high tax bill or whatever. Sometimes people are just, they can, the difficult thing is just putting it out there that they're doing something different, you know, just stepping into creating an offer that helps people or aligns people, you know, and, uh, I feel like this is such a great example of. Yeah, staying true to that vision, you have it and Trusting it and trusting yourself you hit on that because that's a big one. So many people just Really just their their fear is not actually what it is It's do I trust myself to be in that level of power to hold myself in that level of truth is like huge Like the idea that like, okay Can I grow to be that big because I think sometimes you get stuck in like a certain perception of yourself of like Oh, this is good or you know, i'm capable of this, right? And I really had to be like, I have to be brave enough to be that big. I've saved enough to trust and just go, no, I know I can do this and I'm going to find a way. There's always a way I've never not found a way. I always tell a lot of my employees or whoever I've been with, like I'm a hundred percent at surviving. So I've never not made it to the next day yet since I'm still a hundred percent, I should probably go for it. So it was, you know, we've never not made it. We're still here. We're a hundred percent. We're 10 for 10. Okay. We're not nine for 10. We're 10 for 10. And, you know, it doesn't mean it was easy 10 for 10, but we were, and growing that big is, is, was my favorite thing, but also very difficult because when you have these big ideas or these big moves, and it's like, even now, even now I'm like, okay, I did this now I actually have five more bigger ideas. Yeah. Okay. How am I going to get that much bigger? Like, how do I encompass. All of these goals, because now I've done this goal and I'm like, Oh, well, if I can do that, like I can get even bigger. Yeah. Now that I've accomplished this one thing, I'm like, Oh wow. What can I do? Yeah. It's like when you finally go through that pain and figuring it out and doing all these really hard things to get that goal, whatever that could be for you. It doesn't have to be a massive goal. This one just happened to be, it's like, wow, if I can do that, Oh, I can do these other things. Yeah, I've already gone through that, that difficult figuring things out understanding and that's a lot of my personality is figuring things out, but it's like figuring out things that have consequences. Like, it's not like I feel bad no there's a consequence to not figuring that out. So, you better believe in yourself and it's like okay well I did this one thing so now I definitely can do those five don't know how they're going to happen. They're my idea and I know they're going to happen because if I really believe in it. That's what it is. It's meant for me, you know, and if it's not meant, then it's going to transform into something else. Exactly. Yeah, that's leading you to something else, to something else, you know. Exactly. And I'm actually, like, I've said this, I've said this to Ariel and, you know, I think we've talked about this too, is like, I'm actually really glad I never won 50 Best in Show because I would have been a dick dead. I would have loved it. Dick dead. And the fact that I never won actually forced me. to grow and elevate on ways way outside of showing dogs. It made me go, well, okay, what's this with real estate and what's this with this, you know, Hey, we have this opportunity for this boarding kennel. Like, you know, actually I think that's an amazing idea because previous to that, I did not want to run a boarding kennel. Like Ariel is the one that was like, I think we should get a boarding kennel. And I was always like, no, I ran it for 11 years. It traumatized me. Like, you know, I don't think that. And then all of a sudden that day when they presented it, I was like, I thought about it for a week because I was a little like stuck in my own ways. And then I was like. Nah, you're right. This is the best idea. Yeah. And I was unchangeable on it. Unchangeable. That's it. Um, so I think that getting through that really big obstacle and, you know, going through those things then makes me go, well, actually I can do any of it now. And, and also understanding that things are going to drop away. I think that's such a big one. That's so hard when you're, you know. You've had a lot of that this whole year, just the transformation, the eclipses have been in your fifth house, friendships, like connections, community. I mean, new communities and, and just how you co create literally with the universe has shifted, you know, which has been a lot, but also, Yeah. Your things are going to fall away and things will move. And it's, it's allowing it because that's all for the growth. And it doesn't mean if something falls away, it's never going to come back. It might come back in an elevated energy, a new energy. That's more in alignment. And it's just allowing those process to processes and surrender. It's so hard though, because it hurts, you know, it's like, Oh, that hurt. Oh, that stung. Or, you know, we were friends and I had this connection with you. And it's like, But you know what, if you keep those people around, or that job around, or whatever it is, you can never get something better. So, it doesn't mean that it doesn't hurt me. It's still very painful. And I think, you know, the change from dog shows to not being at dog shows, I realize a lot about people and who's in my life and who's not in my life too. Just for anybody listening, like when you're, when people, people who decide to be dog show handlers. They're, it's like all consuming, life consuming, they're on the road all the time, they're constantly taking care, like, high carry of animals, like, grooming, showing, moving, it's very fast paced, it's very high stress, and it's, it's just a lot, and I don't think it gets enough respect for, like, the amount of energy and, And it's been, you know, working with so many show handlers, I really realized, I'm like, Oh my God, I don't know how you guys do it or did it. And then that's like, so then this year you come in. I don't even know how I did it anymore. I think about it. I'm like, I used to just do 10 hours. And I'm like, I I don't want to drive 35 minutes no more. I'm like, Oh, it's so bad. I'm like, that's 10 minutes. That's more than 10 minutes away. I can't do it. Cause I, you know, similar, but traveling all over the country, like training and competing. And I'm like, I loved it. But yeah, it's just like, I think our soul eventually craves peace. And then how can we live out those dreams in other ways, which I think you're doing, like you took the animal communication, you did. Six months of mentorship with her, maybe even a year. I can't remember. I think it was a year before then you were, and it wasn't even like animal communication is the start, but as you know, like it always expands or anybody that's worked with me, it's like, you might come in saying I'm working with animals, but you're going to learn energy clearing. You're going to learn how to like open up tap in. Cause your channel is not just. If you have the channel open, it's not just in one area. You start to open up to all areas and in figure out where that really comes through and, and then Sarah has taken all that and she's applied it to her business and like intuitive through the business. And you've been with me through the business energetic side of things from body for the last year. And that's been really interesting because I feel like that's the space where you. So I was like, Oh my gosh, I've never had such an experience. And I kind of dove into more of like the emotional world, you know, of like energetic standards and like, you know, ways that you're settling for yourself or in life or, you know, really having to see like, man, what have I. the things that maybe you've accepted. Like, what have I accepted? What have I tolerated? Like, oh my gosh, I can't even believe that I was like, you start to see it's like. That I'm unhappy in it. It's like, even again, making decisions or finding your voice to express that or expressing your truth, it can be very challenging. No. And I think a lot of that is I've really learned to, I only accept a certain level of human being. I, and that doesn't mean I, I can't be around others, but I only want to be with people that are like, like minded and in the same way and on the same plane. And it's not that anyone's better or not. It's finding the right people that work for you. And I'm no longer, for me, gonna be, I'm going to be honest, not reflecting back the personality you want anymore because I very much was like, Oh, she's so nice. Well, no, I'm not that nice actually. Yeah. I'm really, it kills Ariel. It was like, Oh my God, that was the kindest person. It's like, who is this person? I mean, you're direct your blood. You've got mercury and calcium. It's not that I'm not a nice person, but you know, I very much see nice. I call it bossy. Nice. And it's very much like, Hey, I'm not going to sugarcoat things for you. I'm always going to be, uh, honest and honor your emotions. I'm never going to be mean or nasty or anything like that, but like, look, if you think you're going to come here and you're going to try to take advantage or do something that's unacceptable for me, or, or live by a standard that doesn't work for me, that's not going to work. There's a standard for care of my animals. There's a standard of care for my employees. There's a standard of care in our own household. And that is only what's going to be accepted. And that's not mean that's just how I'm going to live my life. on like their energetic standards like this is what makes me feel good this is how I want to feel around people that I'm around and, you know, the friendships that I cultivate the community that I surround myself with and even like, yeah, the animals you bring into your world you know, it's like having those connections like, kinda fun but I feel like, you know, when you have all that For us animals come to us to heal. Like they come to us because they feel safe in the, like you create a sense of an environment that is safe. And you're, and you're kind of like what I love, you know, and it's like, even with your dogs, cause I work with so many of your dogs and it's the whole thing is like, how can I make them feel the safest, most seen, most understood? You know? And that's just a huge priority. Um, and I feel like once you understand that it's, it's there, that that's only like a layer of it, but I don't know. I feel like, like kind of moving into that energy. It's like, once you taking that to everything else in life is like, here's what I cultivate and create. And like, you're so potent, you're so powerful. And in your own, like you create that for everybody around you. So it's like, why wouldn't I create that for myself? You know, the same, that same, that same feeling that I create for everybody else. And then there's the other side of that is once you have that, it's like, it's so in your face when someone in your world is not like that and dealing with that situation of like, okay, well, I've known this person forever. And it's like, okay, but it's the same thing. As we go back to before is like, hey, if you're holding on to this, if they're going to be in your world, they're either going to elevate to you, or they're not. So by holding on to them, you're first off doing a disservice. And secondly, you're doing a disservice to yourself because you're constant in a state of conflict over it. Yeah. You're constantly upset about it. And it's like, let people go if they need to go because they're meant to be somewhere else and you're meant to have someone else. Yeah. Part of. Who we are as we grow, you know, just people break up from relationships. No matter what, if you liked or disliked a relationship, it can be emotional. It can be romantic, whatever it is, you learn something from it. Even if you subconsciously aren't saying it, you did learn something from it. I don't know if it's good or bad. I can't say what habit it created, but you did learn something from it. And that's going to move you into a different space, a different direction, a different way. And I think that's something that really becomes evident when you start to stand, like now, I just only accept a certain level and that's it. And so when someone doesn't, it's really in my face and it's really, I'm poignant, and it almost stings a little bit more because I'm not sugarcoating, I'm not being blasé, and it's not that, you know, you have to dislike, it's not that you don't hang out with people or whatever, it's like, those people that matter to you, that are going to influence you, have to be of the same for you, you know, in the same trajectory, and, you know, I think that's really important, but it shows up real hard when they don't. And it's very conflicting when you realize they don't. Yeah, because you own it, and you're like, oh wow, okay, this is what I want, and this is what I've been, this is what I've been collaborating with, this is what I've been co creating with, and it just doesn't, and, and it's not like, You know, they're bad or wrong. I mean, but that's sort of like moving through these spiritual awakenings is we have like hundreds of them, I feel like in life. And it's like, each one is just an opportunity for you to go into more depth with yourself and really like create, like, what is the world that you want to create and not everybody is here to create, you know, uh, Six figure months or whatever. You know, not everybody's here to do this type of work that I do. Right. It's, it's more like owning like your truth and what you're here and how are you honoring that? And who are the people that you are accepting in your world that Don't celebrate you. I mean, this is why I'm doing the temple membership with Jenny con, cause it's like so many women. I, I feel that they come into like these containers and they start to realize, Oh my God, I have been accepting this. I've been tolerating it. And yet I'm resentful. I'm angry. And this is why, Oh my God, like this, this is why. And, you know, and I think that that's just creating more healing overall. And that like. Well, like you're healing and you're, you're Hades moon and that mother wound too, because it is like that creating that connection through sisterhood and community and owning, yeah, like all of it. And. It's, it's not something easy and it's something that will never end. It's something that will consistently keep happening. And I think people don't realize that you're going to continue to grow. And I think we think of life in this way of we're looking at like staged boxes and we're just going from like cartoon to cartoon. But the thing is you're actually growing like on a chart and understanding that that chart is going to go and be good sometimes and bad sometimes. It's not like this perfect little box and it's, you know, and I think that's so hard and so painful, but. Understanding that like it will pass too is okay. Yeah. And I feel like too, with people in our world, the one thing I'm, I'm always reminding myself, it's not that I'm creating it, but like, I'm not responsible for how they show up to life, but I am co creating it. I am, they are mirroring something within me that is yet to be healed. It's yet to be accessed. So, and we have stages of that. And, you know, like I've been through a lot of that this year too, of just, you know, really. Well, I mean, you know, this about these women that come into my world, these projections and all this crazy, you're like, Ray, why does this shit come into your word is up with this? Like, why does this come into your world? I'm like, I don't know because I need to heal it within myself. And the one thing that I wasn't really claiming was my own sense of value, you know? Um, And that was what, when I really sat there and I, and I, I'm one that typically runs from conflict. I'm like, I just want that to go. I wasn't speaking my truth. I don't need to win. And, or I wouldn't, I would either run from conflict or I would feel like I have to win this. I'm going that warrior mode, you know, uh, area self note, and I'm going to beat this and I'll show them and, and fight it down. And it's like, so is either one or the other versus what if we just access, like, Yeah. Dropping in and this experience and what is this reflecting back to you? And, and every single one, it was an opportunity to speak my truth and not in a mean way, not in any way, but like, here's the truth of the situation. And I know you don't see it this way, but here's what really happened. And each time, like one person didn't take accountability for it. I don't care. I still, because I spoke my truth, it cleared it out. But the other times they were like, Oh my God, I did that. And it wasn't that I, you know, they literally sat with it. They moved through that, whatever happened, they're like, and they took ownership and were deeply apologetic. And in that cleared the energy too. So then I'm not taking all these resentful pieces forward and can let that go. And then realize, Oh, when I speak my truth, bad things don't happen to me. I think that's a really poignant point, actually, because it's like, you're almost afraid to say what you think, and it's like, oh my god, if I tell people what I really, I live through that so hard, it's like, oh my god, if I tell people what I really think, like, no one will like me. Yeah. Yeah. Like, or, you know, the one person actually gas lit me and, and she was like, well, you know, I know that was your experience. I'm like, it's what you brought forward to me. So yes, it's my experience. Like, this is what you created, but that's okay. I see the gas lighting. I see the projection. So even though that was happening, like, I'm like, yeah. This woman is totally not like, she is just trying to gaslight this onto me and project. And then that's where my energetic walls go. You're out. You you're out of my aura. You're out. I'm done with you. Like, bye. And that takes a lot of work and healing to go and be like, realize. Hey, what, what my, what happened was real and you can say whatever you want about it, but this really did happen. And that's okay. That's how you feel, but I'm no longer going to play into it. Yeah. And that's now having a boundary of like, that's not who you want in your life. And you're not going to continue to have that, you know, and that's not being a bad person. That's just like, look, that's not working for me. And, and once again, you could be, that person was in your wife life for a while. And it's like, Hey, It's not going to work. Yeah. And you know who that person is and that's not doesn't mean they're bad or good that just means you're not aligning together, and it's best that you find someone else who's going to. Yeah. And. You know, not an easy lesson all the time. And I think that's something that we've worked through a lot is, you know, speaking your truth and that's not hurting people's feelings. That's just standing your own position of like, if you're going to ask me that I'm going to tell you then. Yeah. You know, and I think a lot of times it comes up and it's hurtful or painful and somebody's mistreating you or disrespecting in some ways. Sometimes people don't understand it. They don't realize that it's happening. You know, I mean, I've certainly been that person and I've had to be the receiver of that conversation too. And it's just like, Oh, this is crunchy. But like, yeah, I'm, I'm human. And I've just got to sit here with it. I feel like this is like, and this is so cool because I think that having this conversation right now is, you know, as Pluto's now in Aquarius, it'll only go back into Capricorn later this year. So. And I think that we're going to see so much of these types of like conversations and communities coming up and where, you know, also like people empower that aren't ethical, that aren't of integrity, it's going to show up, it's time for that to like end. And so, you know, this is about creating a new movement and working and collaborating community and connections. And especially the way that I see it and my guys present it through radiant vibes is like, Through the animals healing, like continuing to heal with our animals together. And also through sisterhood and healing that, that mother wound. And even like, I'll be sharing more about the father wound because I'm in, been in deep process with that, with my dad and this passing. And like, I'm just one, I don't share until I feel like I've. Like kind of, I don't want to say mastered, but you know, like gotten to that point of like, I can speak so clearly about this and I'm so close with the father wound. And it's, it's interesting. Cause it's coming into my world where people are writing me and they're like, well, how does the, how does astrology reflect father wounds? How does that happen? It's like, okay, I know I can feel it. I can feel it's breathing live and it's like going to happen. And these, these are, and this is like the, why I love working with people like you, because you're so willing to just explore it with curiosity to the depths. And you don't like, Yeah, your heart you you were a lot harder on yourself, but you are can be hard on yourself You have high standards for yourself, but you're also willing to like let them down and and face it And that's like riding the show, you know I've definitely got a lot better of like Having some empathy for myself. And I think that's probably one of the core things that inadvertently, I think we've worked on a lot is like having empathy for yourself. Like I have empathy for all these people and I used to give them so many chances and opportunities and, Oh, this happened to them. And you know, their dogs acting like this, like I will happily go help them. And it's like, I have all this empathy. For everybody and all their situations and how they need help and how can you assist them and you know? Oh, they just need a little longer to pay because they have this this thing going on Okay. Well, why am I able to do that for so many people but I can't even give myself an inch Right, you know like no, these are the only standards you can let all No, you can have a little empathy for yourself. You're not hurting someone. You didn't do commit some major crime. You didn't do something offensive, but you can give yourself some space and empathy that we all make mistakes. Yeah. We'll do things that make ourselves cringe sometimes. We all, you know, and that doesn't mean we're bad and yes, we're going to feel that awkwardness and embarrassment or whatever happened or like you made a mistake and you're really mad at yourself because you made this mistake. And I do this all the time. Oh my God. How did I not see that? Like, how did, you know, I, you know, the dog walks in the ring and how did I not see that? And I didn't trim that. Like, how did I not see that? That's so ridiculous. It's in my face. And it's like, well, have some empathy. You're also a human, right. You know, and everyone else is a human and everyone. They judge everyone by their actions and judge their own actions by emotion intentions. Mm-Hmm. I really love that because it's like, okay, when someone cuts you off, that's their action. They did it on purpose, but if you cut someone on and off, oh, it wasn't the intention. I was just trying to get in the lane. Right. you know, so it's really having that awareness and you know it's okay to, to be kind to yourself. Yeah. You know, it's really hard to be kind to yourself. You know, that also opens up a lot. And I think that's a lot, um, also on the psychic level of like, once you start exploring that, you realize by being in other people's energy and giving them, uh, whatever, whatever's coming through from them for whatever avenue, um, it lets you know, like, wow, that can be me too. You know, like I can also, that's also something for me, like the information I'm giving them is actually a lesson for me too. I might be the deliverer of the message from their guides, from the incident, whatever. But really, it's resonating with me as well, as I'm telling them, I'm like, Oh, that's a great point. Geez, where'd that come from? That's an awesome point. Is this an electrified session for me or them? Yeah, you're like saying it to them and they're like, Oh my God, I know we lived in that house and we did that. And I'm like, Oh my God, like that's for me too, actually, in my head. You know, you're not saying that to them. You know, all the information in which they're giving you. But, um, It's something psychically that you start to inadvertently understand, you know, at that level of empathy. So, I mean, there's just so many emotions to work through. Jesus, we could talk forever on that. I know, I know. Well, kind of coming full circle with this, what would you say, because I always love to like, leave with some sort of, you know, sort of, Nugget juicy, something really good to like empower people with all these conversations. And so with somebody that like myself, okay. Like I am, I am, I have this bigger vision and yes, I've been one that stays committed to my visions, but you know, I've struggled a little bit this year. I've struggled to have faith in that. And so what, what would you say to people that are like, moving through similar experiences that you did the start of 2023 as you were moving through that and you had those, you know, cracked wide open moments that held you in that like, What would you say to empower them through that? Wow. Then those moments you just want to like curl up and not exist. But like as the person now you're on the other side, right? Like you'll always have more, but like, yeah, you're on the side, other side of a huge, probably one of the biggest ones of your life. I don't know what's for me. What's coming through is very much believe in the investment in yourself. You're making like you believed in what you're doing. You believe in the investment in yourself. Do that. Like you believed in, in the moment you're investing in yourself. You know it, you believe it, just continue. Whatever you end up with is going to be what it should have been. It might have not been your exact vision of what it was, but I feel like just make the investment. Just do it. An investment not in monetary, it means like, whatever that makes for you to become better to that dream. Like, believe it and just do it. If that investment is working out, going for that big dream, whatever that is, like, jump to that. Put that into yourself because you need to invest in yourself to do those bigger things. Yeah, that is. And, you know, I think that really, as I'm thinking about that is like, my investment in time with you has really just changed my whole trajectory. You know, like we've done some big work and I think people that are in those really dark moments, it's like, just go back to that moment where you knew you knew it. I had to do that where I go, Oh my God, this is a really dark spot for me and I want to cry. Or I just, you know, I don't know what I'm doing because everybody thinks everybody has it figured out. Right. They see somebody in this big spot and they're like, Oh, they have it all figured out. And at the moment while they're going through it, I guarantee every single one of them went, I have no clue what I'm doing. Yeah. I am just figuring this out. I guarantee almost all of them. And if they aren't probably lying because they want to feel good. And it's like, you know, Accepting you don't know what you're doing all the time, accepting that you're going to do, you're going to keep to your belief, you're going to keep to it. Because you could have backed out at any moment and it's like, no, I believe in this, this is what I want, and I'm going to do it. The end result might not be your exact vision, but it's going to be so much better than if you hadn't done it. You'll regret not have done it. So invest in yourself and believe in yourself. Like emotionally invest in yourself because you will go farther. It truly will. That's probably the best thing I could do is like, just keep going. Don't stop. Keep. Yeah, that makes so much sense. Like detach from the how, move forwards. And I'm thinking about when I was like, how does it matter? Oh, and like my, like going on dating and I just kept, I just kept going. Bringing in all these weird men. And I'm like, okay, but each time I'm like, what are you going to take from this emotionally? How are you going to shift your energetic world? And it was always this like investment in myself to the point where like I did invest in like how to show up and my feminine, and that healed so much, like. Got me out of masculine. And then that actually, I I've helped so many women do the same thing as like, how can we balance this? Because most of the women that come into my world are heavy, masculine energy, but like, so let's bring in more of the feminine, let's bring in more of this flow of the emotions and, and, and accessing this and shadow work. And like, I'm just thinking about that. I was like, yeah, and I did that. And then I, I, I create like, it kind of fested this amazing relationship, but it wasn't easy. So it's like, this could, this is really any part of your life. It got easier. And I started to have more fun with it. And then I started bringing, you know, I say high caliber men, you know, men that were just like really high integrity. And you know, and, and here's Ryan. So it's like, I'm thinking about that as we're talking about business, it's the same freaking thing there. It's like, I believed in that so deep, like I knew. Yes, in the depth of my soul, I was here to grow old with somebody and, and I didn't find that somebody told my 44th year, but that is okay. Actually, it's such a great statement the how does it matter because truly the how doesn't always matter just start. Yeah, first step, like if you take one step, that's one step farther than you were before. And I think we get so off put by the process, the how truly, I think that was so great. Um, you get so put off by the how, and you're overwhelmed by the million steps you think you need to do to get to that like point of you see someone else and they have that. And you're like, I want to get to that point, but it took them a million steps. Well, if you never start, you're not getting anywhere. And for like my dog people, it's like very similar to terriers. It's doing the little things. Doing, you know, our little grooming every day, our flat work, our coat work. And then all of a sudden one day you have like this beautifully manicured dog. But it didn't happen because I just woke up one morning and groomed it once. It's the same thing with your life. Like, you have to take every tiny little step. Don't worry yourself with like the 57 steps ahead of you. You're not even there. Yeah, like you said, it's not 57 steps. It's like, fine, like, you think it's this massive process and you're like, well, you haven't even gone through it. So just do the first step, write it out what you want, write it out. And then step two, what would be the first thing I need to do to get that goal? Whatever that is, win a best in show, get a new business, uh, work out, be a better human, be a better mom, whatever that is, just do the first step. And then you're going to go, okay, well, I conquered that little step, so I'm going to do that next step. And then all of a sudden you're like snowballing into this great product, whatever the end result you want, you're like, Oh my God, I'm here. Yeah, when people I'm like overnight millionaires don't exist in that way. Do you know what I mean? Like people just didn't show up. Well, they did the work. They did those small, consistent things for so, for such a period of time that all of a sudden now they have this result because they did the hard work. They did those minute things. minute things. The consistency of it all. So just take that first little step. Yeah, this is great. Uh, I love this. So, I mean, normally I share, you know, social, all this. Sarah's not my social. She, she's, you know, she's got her, her boarding kennel. So anybody locally in Maine, North Carolina, um, look it up, Bed and Bones. And so, You know, honestly, you can, she does have a personal Facebook page, which you could go through and look through photos and get like an idea of the energy and things that Sarah has done in her world, but it's, it's really hard to find her. Like, you're not going to say to convince her to be an animal communicator with radiant vibes because she was amazing, but she got like. Honestly, I mean, you got the best thing going in it. It's all for a reason and she's still amazing. So thank you, Sarah, for donating your time today and sharing so truthfully your journey and just what you've moved through. And like, I think the cool thing about you is you're 33 and. There's just so much, you know, to know that you're, you've already done this at 33. It was like, Holy cow. This is the way that our world is evolving. And this is the evolution, evolution and growth that we get to experience now. And even if you're my age, like 45, I'm going to be 46 in two weeks. It's like, it doesn't matter. You can still create that you can, you know, tapping into this. Kind of being there and being present. So thank you, Sarah. Thank you very much for coming on today. Oh, thank you. I had a really good time and also if there's anyone that really wants to elevate their dog handling business or their dog performing I highly recommend Rae. She has all our dogs on such a high level I wish they could talk to my dogs because they would be like I love Rae too, but She's done some really amazing things. Thank you Yes Hey, untamed listeners, I am so appreciative that you took time out of your day to spend with me. I hope you enjoyed this podcast as much as I did, and I would love your support for this podcast. 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